The Fowlers’ history of fruit preserving
Lucky to have 6! See this chart courtesy Minnetrista. The edges of the parchment paper should extend beyond the edge of the jar; bend them down toward the outside of the jar Pour your salad dressing into the parchment paper cup and twist on the lid. Any suggestions on how to date my old bottles please? Condition is always very important. Did you make one of my recipes?
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No , while others have various other marks on the bases. Comments If I plan to use very soon within a few days can I just place them in Mason jars? May 9, at However, you would be proud of my new meal plans I am doing in advance. Big business has known this for years, and effectively what you are making is a home-made version of those extortionately priced cups of fruit salad available at Starbucks and the like.
They are being sold along with modern screw bands and lids. The glass is a bit thinner and lighter than the original Ball Perfect Mason types. The purple jars are made in pint and quart sizes. As time goes on, however, their provenance might be somewhat less obvious to beginning fruit jar collectors. According to the Ardagh Group website, they are made by that glass manufacturing company for distributor Jarden Home Brands. General discussion forum for Ball fruit jar collectors: For information on values, you might check out the Redbookjars.
Please click here to go to the alphabetical mark listings: Click here to go to my HOME page. I recently found some mason jars in an old barn and after cleaning them up they have no markings on bottom but a number 2 under perfect mason and one had number 3. These are larger size mason jars. There are thousands of different jars known and I do not have info on every one.
Please send pics to my email address noted on bottom right of any page on this site and I will see if I can be of any help. Thanks for your patience. I have a half gallon Ball Perfect Mason on front and 2 on bottom. Would it be rare or valeuable? Renee, your average quart and half gallon Ball Perfect Masons in the most common aqua or Ball Blue colors are typically valued at around 1 to 2 dollars each.
The older types of BPM that date from the ss in aqua or blue were made in the hundreds of millions over many years, so they are considered extremely common. They are found with various mold numbers on the bottom. I have a blue ball jar without a number on the bottom. Would you happen to know what that means? Liz, all Ball jars are not necessarily marked with mold numbers.
Hi Medolark, Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I will edit my text shortly to help reduce confusion on the exact wording on those later colored jars. I have a bottle with the ball logo on the bottom along with a large 4. Can you tell me anything about it? Keegan, Ball Brothers Glass Company made a wide variety of containers besides their better-known fruit jars.
Often there is a cursive BALL logo on the bottom. Ball made liquor bottles, food bottles and lots of containers for other products as well. Hi I have a Ball jar that dates between based on the Ball logo. It has its lid, wire closer and rubber gasket. Is it some sort of store display? Perhaps a reader can give us some feedback on it!
I have a Ball perfect mason jar with the 13 on the side. Is it a rare jar? I also have a quart size Ball Perfect Mason, square, with 13F on the side and bottom. What does this mean… It also has an I on the bottom across from the 13F on the bottom. Can anyone tell me about this style jar? Are there reproduction Ball porcelain lids?
I found some lids at an antique store in mint condition. Definitely had the porcelain liners. I have picked a masons jar patent Nov. These new jars are being imported from China, India and other countries in Asia.
They have A13 on the bottom. I have a jar I believe to be half gallon size. It is very faint blue. The front is marked Root Mason. The bottom only has the letter A. The glass has some air bubbles in it, but otherwise is in excellent co dition.
The shape of the jar is nothing like the shape of the Ball jars. Can you provide me with a little history on this jar? Hello, I found a box of old Ball jars and two of them have the B18 and the other has 18 but on the bottom says A18 and the one has B18 on bottom. My question is that a mis print? I found a green Ball perfect Mason pint jar. I have purchased hundreds of the old blue jars. This one is different because the word BALL is in print not cursive.
It also has a extra line around the top of the jar. There are many minor variants of Ball jars, sometimes found in various shades of true green not aqua. You might try posting a query on the antique-bottles. Hello, I have a jar where the Ball logo dates it between To sum this up, there are still a lot of uncertainties involving the many BALL fruit jar varieties to be found, and I am certainly not an expert on those jars!!
Hello, I recently inherited an aqua glass jar with the Mason patent There are no other markings anywhere. The glass has an extreme rippled look to it. I can find nothing about it.
All websites talk about number embossing to determine batch or manufacturer location. Since there are no numbers or any other kind of embossing I was hoping you might help me determine the age.
I have no intention of selling and have no interest in the value. Can you help me? My brother has ball jars that are hand blown. There are tiny bubbles in the glass.. Jeremiah, most jars bearing the BALL brand name are not handblown — they are machine-made either on semi-automatic machines — from the s — or fully-automatic, early s. Hope this helps, David. This is seen occasionally on the base of some Ball Perfect Mason jars.
Ive been searching the internet to find information on reproductions. I read these should be from around s era? How do i know if they are repros? I described them in the text on this page. They are so far made of light cornflower blue glass, amethyst and true green. Usually in aqua, Ball blue, or clear glass. To look for signs of originality, look CAREFULLY under a bright light for tiny scratches in the sides, base wear network of high point scratches and scuffs on the bottom which is noticeable on almost all older jars that were used over a long period of time.
They can be found in large quantities in almost any antique store or flea market especially throughout the Midwest and Eastern states. I am sure your jars are not reproductions. Sounds like the type made circa Please check out this chart showing logo changes, courtesy of the Minnetrista website: I have a collection of porcelain liners,and I would like to know what was embossed on the porcelain liners for ball mason jar lids,so i know what they are like the next time i go to a dump.
Others are blank no lettering of any kind. There are probably other variations out there. They should be the most commonly found type of porcelain liner. If you have access to a local flea market or antique mall that stocks Ball jars with lids most have at least a few!
I recently cleaned out my great grandmothers home and found a large almost the size of a 2 liter jar. The word standard also is written at angle. There is a 2 on the bottom but there is no Ball or any other writing..
Any details would be greatly appreciated! You have the half-gallon size. Hello David, I recently found a triple L, light green Ball jar.
Debra, All I can tell you is the general type was made throughout the c. The markings on the base identified that particular mold. There are no other numbers on it. The emblem is like no others that I can find. There is no loop in the middle of the BB. There is a line in front of the A leading into it.
The bottom of the A is more pointed than curved. The glass has several large bubbles and the writing is very faint it does not protrude as far off the glass as others. Many of them have quite lightly-embossed lettering. Brantley, , page I think yours would probably be Many if not most of these jars have at least a few bubbles in them. My name is Connie Chapman.
I purchased wide mouth quart jars 12 in the box, 7 only wide mouth the other 5 were regular. The lids were all wide mouth. My email is address obscured for privacy concerns. Could you please tell me who to get in contact with? Connie, you misunderstand this site.
This site is about background historical information for glass collectors. I have some mason jars with no marking at all along the side, but it says ball on the bottom. Any idea on these? Among them were several Blue or Aqua? Ball Jars detailed below.
My mother said they were old and collectible. Ball Perfect Mason with lines going down the sides Quart. Ball Perfect Masons Quart. Smaller Ball Perfect Mason Pint? Hi Chip, They sound like typical Ball jars that were made in very large numbers, and although they are old and considered collectible, since they are common they have only minor value to collectors, perhaps 1 to 3 dollars apiece in good condition. Those all sound like lovely run-of-the-mill antique ball jars.
I will continue to buy them at a reasonable price even though I have have many. I keep and collect them to admire, use for dry goods storage and I use the smooth lip mason type for canning. Laura, thanks for your post! Your experiences indicating the old jars as more sturdy and less prone to breakage gives clues as to why so many of the older Ball Perfect Mason jars are still around! The jar has what swirl marks on the bottom but also a line all the way from top to bottom.
Is it hand blown or factory made? It has a what looks like a J17 on the bottom also. By the way, for a bit of clarification, the great majority of hand-blown jars and bottles of American make were also produced in a glass factory by skilled glass workers.
I have a Masons patent November30 with a 45 on the bottom a lead lid and a rough rim and is light green. I see lots of prices so am curious as to value.
Many of them bear mold numbers on the bottom, usually one, two or three digits. Many cannot be identified as to exact glass factory source.
The most common color is light aqua. Typical value ranges for aqua are in the 5 to 15 dollar price range. The question of why the local Australian company appeared to have distanced itself from its British counterpart is still to be answered. There is an online debate about the links between the two, read about it. Remarkably little is known about George Fowler and his British company. I will be looking at why George Fowler did not attempt to build what may have become a multinational company or why indeed, Joseph Fowler appeared to go it alone here in Australia.
I am compiling chronologies of glass bottle manufacturing and making a comparison between the glass designs and how they met local demands. Trade catalogues, advertising material and related ephemera provide vital sources for helping to put the story together.
They help, for example, to piece together a chronology for first and last appearances of manufactured products and they also draw attention to products that may otherwise remain unrecorded. A request for help is made for any material that might be relevant, including trade catalogues covering the period Please contact me at mark. We have found a number of Fowler jars which are like new but very old and unusual.
They all have screw tops. Some are brown glass and the tin lids say Lions. Are there any collectors that might be interested? How can I best dispose of it if anyone would like it or are interested in Fowler Lee memorabilia? It has markings to 3 pts on the side. Just wondering how old it might be. Hi I have got a lot of these jars from geo fowler theres a number 27 on the bottom can anyone give me any info on these please mark. Have just moved house and was thinking of selling some of my Fowlers bottles.
Some are marked on the base and are green and some have the writing down the side Rd. No , while others have various other marks on the bases. Any suggestions on how to date my old bottles please? Hi, I found some very old glass batteries under our house and a Fowlers no 30 jar. I suspect that the jar had been used as a replacement battery case. I have some old small fowlers jars and also fowlers glass lids. I am hoping someone out there can show me what I should be using and will it matter if I use the normal clips?
Hi Julie, bit late with a reply but I only found this sight tonight. The glass lids require a different clip to the normal fowlers clip used for the tin lids.
They are bigger and and rounder on the bent corners of the clips. Hope this helps you. Let me know if you want to sell it and I can point you towards an auction site that might get you the most money. My 6 lovely FV glass jars with glass lids no clips.
I also have a vintage FV stove top complete bottling outfit that is actually Brand New. It is orange with a yellow lid and contains 12 x size 27 jars, clips, lids and seals all in original packaging , a thermometer and a bottle brush. On the front it says: Amanda We hope people using the site may respond. We have also passed your inquiry on to a member interested in Fowlers. It will be up to him whether he replies to you of course. Hello Amanda, Thank you for your inquiry. Depending on the embossed numbers on the base [if visible] will indicate more exactly time of manufacture.
Lucky to have 6! Regard the clips, these are extremely hard to get hold of unfortunately…. With clips double the price range. The Company made the sterilisers from around on. Hi Mark Sorry for delay in saying thank you so much for the interesting information.
Station Street, Nunawading, Vic Hello Amanda, The numbers 2 and 5 are mould numbers [the numbers we really need are on the base, but are unfortunately rarely readable]. Thus the glass machine had the capacity to manufacture at least 5 units consecutively. Hi Mark I have been both collecting and using Fowlers Vacola for the last 15 years.
My collecting has become a bit of an obsession with my intention to collect all jars produced. I currently have aproximatly 40 dozen jars ranging is sizes including numbers 3, 10, 19, 20, 27, 28, 31, 36, 1 pint bottles and a juicer.
I also have a couple of boilers full and junior size and an entire number 2 outfit still in its box from the factory never unwraped. There is also utensils rings, clips, lids and various literature. I am always probing around at markets and trash and treasure to find bargins. Hi Simon, I have only just looked at this site trying to find out about the brown jars.
Mum and I have been having a clean out and put some on eBay and are amazed at the response! What is so special with the brown ones? Mum and I have been having a clear out and we found some brown size 26 jars. I listed them for auction and the response has been startling. What is so special about the amber coloured jars?
The early limit is based on the manufacturers number for the client [namely F] which is bench-marked by glass engineer records. The rarity is a result of these bottles being produced from one run in the newly extended factory, based on a unique batch number.
I recently picked up two amber number 36 jars from an op shop, with f on the bottom as well as the numbers and 0 and a capital M. Would you know the history and or value of these, reading this page I understand they are quite rare? Thanks for a very informative site too! Time of manufacture is sometime from mid to say M on the jars base is for the Melbourne glass factory.
The number F is the client number allocated by the glass manufacturer. And the number is the batch number. Is it possible to email me an image of the 3 inch clips? I suspect with ongoing use they may not seal properly. Not ideal either way. Depends on how they are preserved. If not salted or in vinegar then they could be a botulism risk I suspect. Not trying to scare you though, and if they have always preserved them like that and no one in their family has died I would guess you have a good chance of surviving too.
No, not on its own. Oil to seal pesto or tomato paste can work by excluding air and preventing aerobic organisms from amazing a home in your delicious goods, thereby keeping them in good eating states for longer. However, for anything you want to keep for a long time months if not years needs to exclude not only air by preserving in oil or water, or syrup but prevent anaerobic organisms, the most well known being the botulism causing bacteria, which requires either a very salty, very acid or very sweet solution, and sometimes a combination thereof.
So you can use oil, but you need to treat what you are preserving with either salt or vinegar first, before using your oil to exclude air. Loving that the top 5 has made a comeback.
Many thanks, Candace Franklin. You can contact me if you like. Email address and phone number is at bottom of my article. Kind regards and many thanks for your site. Hi Mark, I have some 1 pint fruit juice bottles with ceramic clip lids with fowlers vacola written on the lid.
Do you know how old they are? I have a book called how to bottle by geo fowler. It is red soft back with a doubled sided photo of the man on the front cover. Is this of any help for your research? Hello, I have been given a lot of Fowlers jars and I have been sorting them out and trying to identify the ages of them. Some are heavier than others, plus some with the same size stamp are slightly different in height. There area number of green ones in various sizes.
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Hi I have a Ball jar that dates between based on the Ball logo. I would rather do a boiling water bath.
I am sure your jars are not reproductions.
There is a 2 on the bottom but there is no Ball or any other writing. To the left of the billy is the 1 imperial quart bottle and cordial far left. This dating profile examples for single moms document records many of the food products of the company and the type of container employed. Thanks for a very informative site too! December 21, at 3: Robertaif you freeze the tomato sauce, this is what I used to do are — after filled and sealed the plastic bag, I use a chopstick to divide the dating mason jar lids in the packet into 2 or 4 or fold it into dating mason jar lids. Anybody else growing tomatoes in their back yard this summer?
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