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Nobody about seems to care. He is lucky to have you, you gave him an opportunity to be loved. So my boyfriend can talk to all the girls he wants yet when i talk to one guy as a friend he goes crazy and starts yelling and punching walls and he calls me a whore what should I do? You're going to be a very big star one day! I juat dnt kno what to do.. March 21, at 3:

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How should I go about to handle this situation? Well, you already know my stand regarding financial support to your Filipino ladyboy girlfriend… I am against it. We made eye contact for about 2 minutes, until he finally walked over to me. So in the month before I turned 50, I finally had a sexual experience in a gym sauna, I finally gave a blow job to a black man, and I had sex with a man less than half my age. There is only one superstar on that team. He's a talented actor, and appears to be an honestly nice, caring person. One friend got tons of downright judgemental messages on one site for putting up a photo of her at a party on the basis of it "not being respectable".

MJ is a legendary asshole. Tiger Woods is the only one worse. Did MJ think you were trying to crash the party, or was he just fucking with you? I heard he did that to a lot of people, i. Interesting on Chelios, because I've heard he was an asshole off the ice, too. Nasty to women, allegedly, as well. I'm no fan of Hextall as a player, but he did the right thing by taking Chelios out. Dirty player, though-Chelios got away with a lot because of his talent.

Oakley wanted to fight me the other time I met him hes a dick, and a wannabe thug. Derrick rose hommeboy punched me out one day though, for no reason not looking just smacked me. Derrick is kind of weird, hes 'nice" but hangs out with some rough ass goons and around other blacks he wouldn't aacknowledge me.

Noah and hinrich however are funny as hell. He stops by frequently where I work with her, both are real nice and always somehow recognize me and somehow my dad too. I never heard the women beater story that would surprise me personally. Plus everybody prior to the lockout was dirty hockey was a vicious game for many years lol. Dennis sarvard despite my dislike of him as a player he started shit constantly and hid behind secord , was a great guy. My father used to take our real vicious dog to this bar in town and savard would wrestle with this bastard and feed him bar nuts and just be awesome.

But joseph addai on the other hand. You gotta look at the running backs if you a booty man. R Patrick Kane has had the same girlfriend for quite a few years. I am not sure where this info is coming from, but he's not single. He's not the brightest bulb, so everyone has IG pics of it.

He's been caught out a few times with morning after shots. They're finally giving a gay man a chance. I wonder about McIlroy and the magic, blonde girlfriend who mysteriously disappeared when he needed to focus on his game. The one I found credible was a hook-up claim from a poster who didn't really know who he was, i. He has a girlfriend. His partying happened quite a few years back. If people have present-date photos of him drunk and partying, please post them.

Speaking of golf, there have been whispers about short 2nd year pro Bud Cauley. He's very cute, apparently has never had a gf to speak of, hangs out with his sister all the time, and posts pics to Instagram of himself in mud masks. Then there was the convoluted, bizarre story he told about his domestic incident that just happened to involve gay men.

He's super cute, R, and his shirtless ice bucket thing is nice. Good bod, hot pits. Slight southern gay voice. We talked about this in the Aaron Rodgers thread but sportswriter Eric Erdholm said that an NFL player who recently signed a big money contract extension is known to be gay by his team. This was in a tweet from late August. R, he didn't really give any clues, other than the contract extension was recent so probably this summer. Eric Erdholm responded to one person who was guessing by saying "I bet there have been players who have signed "hefty" extensions in, say, the past 3 years.

Besides Miss Aaron of course. I'm surprised Aikman flew under the radar as long as he did. Hell, while he was a quarterback, he met a college student and lived wit the guy for about five years. I'm guessing Troy is thrilled his playthings did not have twitter access like Kevin Lanflisi! I saw pics years ago. At a pool party. Looked like Troy if Troy had been a nerdy bookworm instead of a jock.

Well, in all fairness, r, I didn't think Eric Lindros would fly under the radar dating his daddy agent for over a decade. He didn't try to pass him off as anything. It just never came up anywhere.

He just moved him in. Of course there wasn't things like Twitter and Facebook. Did people wonder why he had a guy living with him, or did he just lock the bf in the basement or something when guests came over? Did Jerry Jones and co. When you have a quarterback who generates about a billion dollars worth of revenue a year you wonder to yourself. If you're Troy making millions, and the boyfriend, in love, and living the life, you don't go to business meetings.

You don't want to be introduced to the team. You don't expect to go to the parties. Seems to have curbed the coke long enough to do some serious off season training. Seguin is hot, but his captain Jamie Benn is both sexy and adorable. Hope Seguin's lifestyle doesn't affect him negatively, since they seem tight.

I haven't heard any negative rumours about Benn. He seems to be a character guy who wouldn't be affected by Seguin's lifestyle either way. I'm sure the Stars did their due diligence on Seguin. I think it was more a case of he didn't fit in with the Bruins-they run a very tight, conformist ship. I don't understand how people think that Tony Stewart is gay. I just don't see it.

Don't see any gayness at all Troy's ex boyfriend should write a tell-all. That would be an interesting read. Did he hit skid row after Troy dumped him or did he just take a payout and move on with his life? And people in the know will tell you that CM Punk is openly bi. All that picture needs is Tony wearing a caftan!

That is one helluva gay face he's working there. A grand jury declined to press charges against Tony Stewart. Now he can go back to posing with his pussy: Now he can go back to posing with his pussy. Coincidentally, he was just released from the company. R that's some platonic friendship they have. Taking the whole bromance thing to a whole new level. Wait, you're telling me that guys who parade around in tight pants and wrestle with other men for a living might not be totally hetero?!

Regarding WWE, there were some pictures of Paige getting rather intimate with another woman doing the rounds a bit ago. Not sure if that poster realized he was on two previous seasons of Big Brother complete with live feeds but he was. It was seen on the feeds that he got at least a hand job maybe also a blow job from a female HG in his first season, and he is rumored to have fucked her in jury.

Never heard rumors of him messing around with male HGs but he and the other meathead on his original season, Russell, had this weird moment where they got in this confrontation that you almost thought they were going to kiss so not surprised there could be rumors about him.

Even though I am not sure I buy any of it. Yet people seem to think Toews is gay for the exact opposite reason of him dating a chick who is super hot and skanky? Just comes across as wishful thinking IMO. And the way he has settled down in the last 2 years not with some model or actress typical beard type, but with just a regular pretty but not overly pretty girlfriend who was just a bartender or something before they dated And the public interactions he has had with this girl seem genuine while Kane has demonstrated in his past commercials and stuff that he is not a good actor at all.

So I buy that his current relationship is real whatever his past. But if Kane is gay I guess that makes all the articles about Brad Richards moving into the Trump building where Kane lives and them carpooling to the rink together and everything more fun I guess?

As far as Toews, I kind of buy the rumor that his current girlfriend worked as an escort when she was a pin-up girl before they dated and that he has had to put in work to cover up her past to keep up his wholesome image that the Blackhawks try to promote as contrasted with former party boy Kane. Whatever orientation either of these men have, neither is coming out for a long time, if ever, if they are gay because it would mess up their endorsements despite how gay-friendly the NHL tries to portray itself to be now.

And Toews is rivaling Crosby to be the top Canadian hockey player endorser, too. I also think it's the hockey environment that throws people off. Hockey players tend to be very chummy and handsy with their teammates and it invites ideas, especially if you compare it to other macho sports where it is less so. I'm not saying some of them couldn't be gay or bi, it's just that the straight ones are not afraid to show affection in public.

The hockey culture is sort of fascinating to me as someone who only in the last several years paid much attention to the sport. It's just such a strange system that really doesn't exist in the other professional sports that allow competition through high schools nationally although perhaps maybe some of this happens on the AAU circuit in other sports too.

He moved into the Trump Tower because his wife, who is due any day now, trapped him into marriage after she got pregnant. They had been dating a while and he told her he didn't want kids until he'd retired. After he found out what a gold digging whoah as Bill Burr would say she was, he wanted to end it. He is older and an honourable type and he worried about the baby if he didn't marry her to strengthen his parental rights.

The wife tolerates the catting to some extent, but apparently this one got pregnant. She left her job with a few years on her contract, which added fuel to the gossip fire. Anytime a female sends nudes, they are shared amongst the team according to their tastes.

The was going on the 90s, when I first started watching the game. Back then it was polaroids remember them? In those days, the players had roomies on the road.

He was being an entitled dick, his usual MO, and some guy just stepped up and got physical. According to one person the cops were actually called, but they didn't do anything.

Danny Cipriani was the one who dated Kelly Brook? Haven't there been rumors about all of her men e. She seems to have a type. R yeah, forgot to say that he plays rugby. I've heard rumours about him and James O'Connor before, so this might be true. R exactly, the dating history is a big clue. Unless all her boyfriends happen to be bi, which would be a coincidence.

There are likely a number who have "fun" with other guys but do not identify as gay. I have worked with a number of professional athletes as doctor as counselor - that is all I am saying and have heard more than a few stories about drunken evenings with another guy from the team. As far as being full-on, in the closet but secretly "gay" - that is a difficult one.

I still think the environment is very unfriendly for sports players to be out. Well, at least in the U. LV gets a lot of shit for her past, but she's not the first hooker, excuse me, hostess, he's been around.

Kane would never be outed by the press, even the gossip press, because the NHL wouldn't allow it. Sports is an entertainment business, and as such it follows the same rules as celeb gossip. Nothing really gets out without TPTB vetting it, or trading the items detrimental to the business for salacious, but relatively harmless, items. The gossip mentioned they were coke users. The real situation was allegedly that they were actual oxy addicts-or any pain killer they could get their hands on.

Allegedly, Snyder knew about the coke parties, but freaked out when he found out the truth was more serious. They also had cap issues, but they weren't going to do a deal that fast on cap space alone. I think a lot of these guys are truly bisexual; only a small percent of them are actually bearded and in the closet.

Also, r when you answer my Patrick Sharp weather girl question can you also share any info you have about Brad Richards and his past relationship with Olivia Munn.

I don't know about Cipriani's sexuality,but I wouldn't believe in everything that Jasmine Lennard says. She's mental and very homophobic. This was a while ago, but the fall out put him on the block. Don't know whether she was pregnant, then aborted or not. She left that job and laid low. Nick Leddy is supposed to go the Islanders according to the twitterverse so maybe Sharp got a stay of execution. Apparently the wife maybe be pregnant. I find that hard to believe, but whatever.

I never heard of Richards with Munn. I heard he dated a couple of real women, i. One was south Asian. He also hooked up, but with high end 'hostesses' or models who kept a lower profile than someone like Munn. Not saying they didn't date though. Kesler is apparently approaching Shanahan status with the fuck anything that moves. Although I heard Shanny liked men too, unlike Kesler. Unfortunately, he's not as gorgeous, charming or as good a player. He wasn't popular in the locker room before that, either.

If I was a GM I would not do muff moves. Sorry, if you guys marry puck bunnies, don't get upset when one of your mates dips his wick in the wax. I didn't know that Sidney Crosby lived with Mario Lemieux for as long as he did. I also didn't hear the rumours about why until recently. They obviously tanked for the pick. IIRC, they also won a weighted lottery. I'm not sure on the latter point though.

The tanking was blatant. Lemieux was owed millions from the previous ownership when he played. The only way he could attempt to get it back was to take over the team. It was rumoured at the time that there were some secret promises made to him like the Crosby lottery if he agreed to not sue the NHL and the team for the money. R Woah, didn't know that! It sounds like when Carter allegedly slept with Hartnell's wife and then got traded. In looking up that info though, I also saw rumors that the fights he had with teammates involved something with him and Patrick Kane.

Still haven't found anything that said why it happened. So not long term or anything if it wasn't just her being a Rangers fan and some PR person running with it. That was the final straw for Carter. He and Richards were out of control on other fronts as well. I suppose I could see him as bi or even gay, I just don't know much about him. Wasn't he with the same girl forever? What's odd is that people just say this like it's an accepted thing. Josh Gorges was at least seen in a lot of gay bars in addition to the rumours.

Wasn't there that one? Some former pro basketball player back in the 's that went on to do gay porn? Rumoured to be much more interested in the males when boys invite the puck bunnies up to their hotel rooms. He was asked in an interview what he would be were he not a hockey player. Link below is a roundtable interview with Crosby, Lundqvist, and Toews from a few days ago. Around the 10 minute mark the interviewer asks them what they think about the NHL's "You Can Play" initiative and what they expect reaction would be if an NHL player came out and how they would deal with that as leaders on their teams.

Toews fields the question first while Crosby stays pretty quiet before the interviewer brings him in to give his answer. Toews speaks fairly positively and naturally about how it's good for the game to progress and open up the game to as many people as possible while I didn't really get Crosby's answer and it seemed kind of awkward to me.

I think it was a dick question to ask and also the one about You Can Play, knowing Crosby's in the closet. There's another link to a roundtable with Claude Giroux male cop ass grabber and Seguin possibly bi partier, gorgeous young guy on that site. It did seem kind of like at one point during the interview Strombo was looking over to the side like there may have been an off-camera PR person not happy with him getting his attention.

Also, am I the only one who thinks it's weird that PK Subban talks about his family all the time and nothing about his dating life?

He really didn't ping to me, but I wondered. I don't blame any player for not talking about their personal lives too much because they can't really win if they do, but PK seems so open and gregarious that I think if he did have a personal life he'd share it.

But this reminds me Just his reaction when PK kissed him on the cheek after an interview during the playoffs last year made me wonder and of course Pierre has all those weird comments but at the same time if he was really gay I'd think he'd be less of a goof about it?

He skeeves me right the fuck out-he's a joke in the league. Do you think Cabbie is gay or just fangirling? The way he interviews players makes me wonder. The guy does not believe in personal space. I didn't get a gay vibe so much as an over enthusiastic fan who won a contest to interview players. I'll never forget when he pulled Steve Mason's chest hair and kidded him for looking pre-pubescent. The first thing I thought was I would've liked to see him try that with Hextall.

Admittedly, the line between "lovestruck gay man" and "giddy straight fanboy" is a pretty thin one. Even the most rabidly hetero sports reporters often come across as being gay as hell when they interview or talk about their favorite athletes.

I thought you may have been exaggerating, R, but Crosby's response was the non-answer of ambiguous non-answers. I really didn't wonder or care whether he was gay or not before this, but now this makes me wonder.

He did not say a thing at all while mouthing words. Dutch race car driver Mike Verschuur. He's very good too. He has at least 26 wins. I can't find any info since Jonathan Toews answered the openly gay hockey player very freely and naturally. That's not something a closeted gay or bisexual would do. He was very nervous, R It was a tough question for him to answer even though it was a simple question about accepting an openly gay player. But, Crosby is not homophobic at all.

Toews was very easy with the question. I don't believe Toews is closeted at all. R, given Sidney's nervousness, do you think he is closeted In contrast to Toews who was very comfortable with the question? This will not be the only time a question about gay players in the league are going to hurled towards Sid's, especially since he's Captain of a team. I'd like to see him do what Lindsey Lohan did with Sam Ronson: I think if the first person to come out in the league was someone young, goofy and well-liked, for example Eddie Lack, then it would be easier for the rest to come out, because the reactions would be very positive.

Not a franchise player to freak the old owners out, but well known in hockey with a good personality. I love Segs too, and I still think he's bi. I can't decide whether he's charmingly fuckable or fuckably charming. This is Seguin and Jamie Benn, whose bromance is now officially called "the Bennguin" doing cool things with pucks. Sid Crosby has never been seen with a woman in public.

He took his sister to the NHL awards over the summer. R Seguin strikes me as a person who likes sex a lot. So, who knows, maybe he experimented with guys or is ginuinely bi. R, experimented with guys? You mean he's done? These scientists are never done. He's either gay or bisexual. Unless homophobia dictates it. You can still be private and people still seeing a LTR partner, so it's not about that, he can't pull the excuse that it would disappoint his fans, because that's bullshit too.

He also keeps a low profile off the ice, too, so random social media isn't likely to casually out him. There is an unwritten rule that you don't go after "the Best One".

The shit Gretzky has pulled is a fucking joke. Rick Tocchet can attest to that. They didn't out Eric Lindros when they easily could have. Lindros had more controversy around him too, that was tangentially related to his sexuality. Pavel Bure was allegedly gay, but no one said squat because he was connected to the Russian mob.

It's a damn shame he's in the Hockey Hall of Fame with that connection. The rumour is that Gretzky and his wife were a lot more involved than was reported. He was even speculated to be the 'owner' involved since he had a minority stake in the Coyotes at one point.

Tocchet took the fall because, well, you couldn't have the Great One and his angelic wife tainted by that-it would reflect poorly on the league. I lived in Pittsburgh until recently and you'd never hear anything about Crosby's personal life either way. I saw him out to dinner with another male about a couple of years ago not a teammate but that could easily just be a man-date. No woman was ever around. He could be gay but he strikes me as slightly asexual, too.

I can't imagine him having sex with anyone. It's clear he's not into women, but if he's gay, must have long-term partners who know how to keep their mouths shut. Nobody here knows Crosby's personal life for God sakes! Datalounge is a good place for gossip about actors. Crosby - weren't there rumors that he was dating some agent or manager or something like that?

He was with his agent for many years until he decided to beard up at age 40 he has a son now, so maybe that's the reason. It's referenced somewhere upthread. I posted this in an earlier thread and I have nothing to back it up other than instinct, but I am convinced that Oregon's QB Marcus Mariota is one of us. I can't imagine Crosby having sex with anyone either. He, or someone else, must have beaten that part of what was left of his humanity out of him.

However, If I looked like Sid, a full length mirror is pretty much all I would need for a great sex life.

I think he looks like a nasty fuck here and I'm not a fan. TPTB knew they fucked up with Lindros, and they also knew Sid would be the first 'great' one to play with the instigator rule.

They weren't going to take any chances on his sexuality hurting business. He was doubly protected also because he was involved with Lemieux. Several former Oregon State Beavers football players What do you think athletes like Sidney Crosby and Anthony Recker think when they look in the mirror? Are they turned on by their own bodies? Crosby went to the team's Halloween party last night dressed as Rocky Balboa. In the past, both parties who fought got offsetting penalties unless there were extenuating circumstances.

This meant in practice if Crosby was being roughed up by another player shoved, hit with stick, knocked down, etc. He could suck my blood, or whatever else he wanted. Never seen him look that good.

The whole thing was hosted by the Pens wives and girlfriends association. I have visions of the a Flyers Hallowe'en party with Hextall as the construction guy from the Village People. Of course, I hate the everybody on the ice bullshit they do now after the SCF, so maybe I'm just old school.

I'm not going to out them online completely but I don't mind giving hints. All are bisexual unless something has changed. All played for OSU after the year One is a current NFL player Who gives a rats ass their all gonna end up with women anyway. Come back when you got something better dumbass. I have to agree, the best way would be for a bunch of high-profile athletes in major sports to come out all at once. The problem is though that most of them actively pretend to be straight and beard up, like Rodgers.

Crosby is the only superstar I can think of who doesn't do that. It would be easier for him to come out, since he wouldn't have to explain years of lying. Not so much for other athletes. He also got his own place. I think the guys go over there now, like they do in Chicago with Toews. Sid lived with him in a 'mentoring' arrangement. Was Lemieux married or otherwise with a girlfriend during his "'mentoring' arrangement" with Crosby?

Lemieux had a shotgun wedding with some girl that he knew from Canada. She was a few months pregnant when they got hitched. Around the same time, he had been involved in a scandal when his roommate on the road raped a girl while Lemieux had consensual sex with her friend in the bed next to them. This with his pregnant girlfriend in Canada. I'm not sure of the timing of that, though. I thought Lemieux had already been married for a while, and it was adjoining rooms.

In fairness, that is not that odd an arrangement for young rookies, especially the higher end ones. The rape happened Nov ' Mario married his wife in June ' Their first kid was born in April ' They probably had to get married when she got pregnant because of the Quebec culture. R The only place I have heard gay rumours about Del Zotto is here. Every where else I have read and heard about him being a proper whore.

He's a pathetic whore, though. I mean seriously, can you not get somebody's sloppy seconds on that team? G's a decent guy, I'm sure he'd throw a few your way. Michael Del Zotto was outed by that porn star claiming he texted her endlessly for a long time, and sometimes all night long. She claimed that hundreds of girls have come forward about the same thing.

I think he's a sex addict or something. But, he pings to me. Maybe he's one of those feminine heterosexual males - I guess they do exist. I have a hard time believing he hangs around with Tyler Seguin and any of the Rangers and can't get laid. That is very strange, R It is very peculiar that he's so attractive and wealthy that he's that desperate.

Maybe he believes porn stars are more willing sexually? Maybe he's into anal and swallowing, and blowjobs, etc. He might like that kind of sex, I guess. But, if he's contacting hundreds of women, he's certainly a sex addict. But, I watch him in videos and he comes across as gay to me. I always assumed he was gay and closeted. My gaydar is usually spot on, but this time, maybe not.

Apparently Vince McMahon likes getting it on with wrestlers, and has his own version of the casting couch! Then I saw an interview and it removed all doubt. Pink sequined purses falling out of his mouth. I've got nothing to go on, but I've wondered whether there was more going on in Tampa between Brad Richards and Vinny Lecavalier than just being best friends since they were roommates in high school. It just seemed a bit odd that Lecavalier had the same girlfriend who lived in Canada for a ton of years, but she didn't move in with him in Florida until shortly after Richards got traded.

Richards is a partier who hides it well. He got burned on it this time, though. I never heard anything but straight re: He has a penchant for hot messes, but will date "classy women" when he goes to his charity events or needs a date who won't embarrass him with her tacky materialism.

Unfortunately, he he hooked up with a gold digger he thought he could control, until she got pregnant. Cue the shotgun wedding and PR pics where he looks like he has a mace up his ass. Latest word is he'll retire next year, leaving money on the table. There are no heterosexuals anywhere on earth.

And bi is a myth: Every single one of them. Except maybe the really ugly ones. Like it was okay if Dick Cheney was straight but that's it. R crazy persons is.

Not all everyones is gay. You are stupid so much. Is not Derek Jeter homosexaul. Only pussy he likes so be dealing with it bitched. Go back to Google Translate R I think Derek is bi. I don't know why, but I think he and A-Rod had a fling during the season.

If you saw the way they looked at each other after they'd get an out, there's no way that's just "passion for the game" LOL!!! There was a thread about it that someone posted on LJ, but I think it got taken down. I just says not Derek Jeter gay is. Is good to have masculine gays but just ones who not afraid to fuck. I just wants them to be happy. After A-Rod had his PED scandal, the rumours, snarky blogger remarks about his fashion and interior decorating vanished.

A-Rod was with a vague hanger-on for a while, according to posters here 'personal trainer' type. Outsports twat Cyd Zeigler is teasing some big coming-out story for today. Knowing him, it's probably some nobody or an outright lie, but maybe, just maybe, we'll get an out pro fairly shortly. He's just gay on datalounge,everyone outside of here knows he's str8. Can't say the same about Jeter Outsports is a joke of a site and they'd do anything to get hits on their site which used to be, many years ago, a valuable resource.

It's now a whored version of what it used to be. Ari-Pekka Liukkonen, Finnish swimmer. He's huge too, 6'10". He had the 19th fastest time at the recent swimming world championships in 50m freestyle and did not start in he m freestyle. Wonder how he feels about guys who won't come out. I think you know going in, especially as a black man, that most of your colleagues are closeted for life. TWICE he used the word "choose" when referring to a gay lifestyle and homosexuality.

To me, that's a definite indication of what he believes, and that it wasn't a slip or error. He used to have his own thread on DL stemming from his coming out announcement. Looks like that thread doesn't exist anymore - probably for not having any action for too long.

In the doc, a couple of other UK sporting names speak out publicly for the first time about being gay athletes.

I don't really get a gay vibe at all except the one photo of his posted early on in this group of him shirtless talking on the phone and an easy Google find as well.

Either way he is well worth worshiping! In part 1, someone mentioned Morneau, which is the first I'd heard of rumors about him, other than tons of jokes about him and Mauer when they were roommates. Frankly, I always thought Mauer might be gay and I had vague hopes that if so, he might quietly come out someday. But he married "his best friend" a woman, not really heard of 'til their engagement and they promptly had twins. It honestly seems like every MLB player gets married right away and if they don't, there's pressure to do so because people start making assumptions.

If it is Iverson, R, do you believe the media will claim it to be from his promiscuity with women? Even though that is probably not true. I've actually read stuff about Joey Votto possibly being gay on various baseball boards straight ones, not gay boards.

Not sure if it's true or not. Which baseball boards, R? No need to link to the specific Votto posts. I just want the names of the boards. I'm looking for good baseball boards. Extreme status seeker, too. Pathetically tries to attach himself to baller's entourages. Any more details about the pro basketball player with HIV? Iverson's been out of the game for a while now, I think the Sixers even retired his number.

What's the story in Tyler Seguin? But nothing seems real, even on female gossip sites. Tall, blonde, pretty, and very fit. She is not famous at all. She actually lives in the same neighborhood where he was born. She was introduced to him by his sister. Kind of sweet, right? She has a penis. Yes, he is dating a pre-op transgender woman. They really hit it off earlier this year and have had a short but successful dating run of a couple of months now.

Given his messy previous relationships, we are just very pleased that he found someone who makes him so happy. Send this to a friend who is a sports fan. This site isn't into outing gay people here. I was hoping to find a few people like me here but nothing.

No dialogue about these guys. Tyler Seguin is a homophobe and he has a gay stylist who works for him. Nobody about seems to care. Quite active on SM, but is more careful about contacts-has a couple of layers of profiles and sometimes gets his friends to set him up. Allegedly not much downstairs and doesn't really know what to do with it unlike his amazing teammate Jason Demers ; hooks up drunk most of the time.

R It's always been that way here and other gay websites. I've asked what other people thought of person X being gay and get no responses. Gay men will say person X is gay but they won't tell you why or if they do it's usually a flimsy single reason driven by lust.

R, I have read that same information on other gossip sites. Rspecially female boards like Talk Sports. Nothing substantiated to back it up. Nothing real, truthful or concrete to back it up. And, I'm the one to introduce Freddy Bender to this website. Freddy is his male roommate who lives with him in Boston, Toronto and Dallas. And, also nothing real or concrete to back up the "bisexual but into women" homophobic propaganda that datalounge likes use all the time.

R, never once have I read anything about Brayden Shenn here. I searched and found nothing. I have been in this site for years and years. Shenn is not awkward. He looks like Pwrez Hilton for crying out loud. Talk Sports is a truck and a half full of crazy. The phrase "bitches be cray" was made for that site. Concrete as in what-pics, video, escort stories? Seriously, you'll never get anything concrete--that's why it says 'gossip and pointless bitchery' here. Now that the site is linked to Google, the real gossip that used to be here is harder to find.

People who are on the inside, but the fringes of the game have commented on him pulling a lot of women. If I get what you're implying, and it's certainly possible; however, there's no concrete evidence he's gay, either. In fairness, it might be a matter of definitions around bisexuality that always end in tears here.

To me, if he's fucking both sexes, he's bisexual. I realize that's rigid to some people who think he's only with women because of the homophobia that still exists. Because I'm basically dead inside, I go with the more clinical definition. I wouldn't be surprised if the BI about Arod is true. His girlfriends keep getting bigger and buffer, and so the jump to an XY chromosome seems like the inevitable next step in the progression.

R, I suppose, he pings to me majorly. He also follows loads of gay fashion designers on twitter. He has never apologized in a genuine way about his homophobia in twitter and especially about copying and pasting a private message sent to him by a gay man asking him of he was gay and if he was, did he want to get together when he came to the gay man's city. I do want this asshole. There has to be something out there. I'm looking into more information about his feminine and singing horribly male roommate.

And don't knock Talk Sports, they have uncovered valuable information, especially about Aaron Rodgers. Talk Sports is a mixed bag - occasionally you will find some interesting dirt but there are a lot of nutty fangurls there. And don't they ban people from saying that certain athletes are gay? Or am I thinking of some other site? Regardless of it's a "mixed bag" it's been beneficial to me for my Aaron Rodgers research. Anyways, I hope to find a group of people who want to seriously out people here.

It's tough finding people here who truly want to. Who are the importance if it. R You know I'm against outing of celebrities in general, unless they are being homophobic hypochrites.

Then they are fair game. But if someone is being quietly closeted, no beards for show or pr bullshit, then I would never out them. What Seguin did posting that gay guy's message was a jerk move.

Why not turn the guy down in a private message? As for having no public girlfriends. Wasn't he dating some Alie or something? His bff Benn has no record of ever having a girlfriend, yet no one talks about him being gay.

If you want to see cray-cray fan fraus, check out the Clay Matthews or Sidney Crosby boards on Talk sports. A "Fan" board, a "Sucks" board, a "Girlfriend" board, etc.

The frau meltdowns on "girlfriend" boards are hilarious, especially if their "guy" is accused of being gay. I'm not looking for people like you R I'm looking for a small group of men or women who are into outing closeted gay celebrities and athletes.

At the first glance you would assume somewhat approachable. The dress seems very low maintenance and comfortable but the shoes with the ankle wrap scream diva. The comments are, of course, supporting Datsuk and they are horrendous. The history of the Russians in the NHL has been extremely sordid and violent.

I am not saying you're wrong, but I know anyone not towing the party line will and has paid for it in the past. Here's an article about Tyler Seguin copying and pasting a private message to him from a gay fan onto his twitter.

I saw it live though and was quickly deleted. Russians who play in the NHL, but have family in Russia, are threatened if they don't toe the party line. R, when asked how he felt about Russia's anti-gay laws, he said "I'm orthodox, that says it all". What else could he be implying? He's never said or done anything to say otherwise.

And, did you read the comments in that article? I've always said I wouldn't discuss religion and politics with friends. But honestly, I've seen players all over the map; some are conservative, some liberal. The percentage is leaning more toward conservative though. How do you know the sizes of Seguin and Demers? Details of them and others?

They must have a lot of fun! I'd love to hang out with the guys and have that type of camaraderie. They are together more than they are with their families. Someone mentioned former U. Whatever is going on in his life, I hope he can get some help.

As the younger guys come in the league, it will tilt more to the left. I think the first openly gay player will also be a young guy like Lack.

I think you guys are on to something when it come to Joey Votto. Forgot to mention that when I saw him play there was a heckler in the stands screaming things like "Joey Votto has womanly hips! Anyone know who any of these people are? Feel sorry for some of them, one works at a Christian school and another works with other assistant coaches who are verbally anti-gay.

I find Votto very attractive, and not just physically. Does anyone know anything about Chip Kelly Philadelphia Eagles head coach? He's a middle-aged bachelor who "doesn't discuss his personal life". According to this, 2 veteran NFL players would come out if it weren't for the media hassle - any guesses as to who these guys are?

Not only that, if they're already established in the game, the media will treat them differently. Black women are obviously on to him, so he dates others. Not because he wears pink, but because of all the rumors from his home town. He is also super status conscious. He'd be exactly the type of black guy to date white women particularly blondes to show off the 'baller status' he thinks he has. Not saying your lying about the rumours, BTW, just curious where you heard that. The team must've hated the fuck out of him to trade him to Buffalo.

Who's gay in sports, part 2 Continue talking about 'mos in football, baseball, swimming, hockey, figure skating, basketball, etc.

Thanks for the thread, OP. Any more info on Claude Giroux, the hockey player who was sexually harrassing a male cop? Will Carl Lewis ever come out? Link to Part 1. But here are 3 guys, that i thought we were getting somewhere with, and they all left me heartbroken:. The first guy i met was ok. I was recently out of a 5 year relationship, he was out of a long relationship too.

We had too many drinks and ended up having sex pretty fast. I thought he'd think i'm way too easy and will never talk to me again. Instead, we started seeing each other regularly.

I wasn't that much into him, but i was still not recovered from my past relationship and, i guess, wanted to have someone there for me. He was in a similar position, so it all seemed to be working well. Eventually, he started treating me better and better. We never talked about being exclusive, defining our relationship, yet we'd spend lots of time together, we'd go out, hold hands, kiss and make out in public with no problem, he was making me dinners, help with manly stuff around the house etc.

So i have slowly started falling for him. I even made a house party once, and invited him, and he came and met all of my friends. It lasted for about a month. One day i was driving, and saw him walking and holding hands with another girl and we live in a big city and not in the same area. What are the chances?

I confronted him about it later, and he said how he never said he wanted a relationship, he is just out of one, and he enjoys his time with me, but he is not ready for a new one and wants to see what's out there. I didn't like the 2nd guy i met right away. He wasn't physically attractive to me, but he was really funny and interesting to talk to. I would have loved him to be my friend if we haven't met on the dating website. He kept asking me out. I decided to go out with him a few more times, just because he was fun to be around, but never felt any chemistry.

Even felt bad for leading him on, but kept seeing other guys. He started pursing me like crazy, he was very very nice to me, so eventually i have started liking him.

I have enjoyed being treated like a princess and thought to myself "wow, this guy is really nice and is really into me, who else would treat me like that? And i decided to give it a chance and started developing feelings too. After 2 months, we were hanging out one evening, and he started going on and on about how he can't believe that he met someone so amazing online, how he did't expect this to happen, how he is sick of online dating and doesn't wanna see anyone else.

So we talked and decided to make it serious and delete our profiles in front of each other. So all was great, no problems, fights or other issues. Again, why start and waste 2 months of my life? The last guy, was actually the first one i have liked instantly. I wasn't expecting that, but i really liked him the moment i met him. He seemed interested too. He complained to me about online dating from male point of view, how most of the women he met are boring. He is highly educated and is very picky about intelligence of women he dates, and he said he was amazed by me, because he felt it was so easy to talk to me right away, i'm smart and attractive.

He was asking me out every days which was unusual and it told me he is really into me. He was also very nice to me and we could talk forever. He has to wake up early for work, but we were still talking and making out till late when we saw each other. After 3 weeks, i had crazy feelings for him, and he seemed to have too. He canceled one of the dates for seemingly legit reason. I was cool about it, and told him that its ok, and we can see each other some other time.

After that, he became very distant. Disappeared for a few days, then messaged again apologizing telling me about the problems he had. Then he would just randomly message me every few days, but never offered to go out again.

And eventually just stopped messaging me. I think men and women gave different problems with online dating, but we ha e it equally hard. Guys don't get responses, women find players. I completely agree with what a lot of men are saying. I was married 30 years only to be violently attacked by an alcoholic wife.

I set myself out there and the women just play games. They say stupid things and just look for attention. I'm seriously disappointed in what appears to be the feminist movement in this country. They try to use their sexual prowess instead of their intelligence, which most are seriously lacking, and again, play games. They are not serious and don't care about a good relationship. I'm sure it's true there are a lot of men jerks but we are all stereotyped that way. Please be ladies OK? Have some respect for the opposite sex and if you're not serious just stay the heck away all right?

There are good men like me out there. And you ladies that look so good in your photographs are just absolutely narcissistic and hideous with the way you speak to us. Please get over yourselves and take your meaningless time wasting profiles down and go gaggle in the mirror at yourself. It's really too bad. I have been giving this a good shot for months and actually have made a few good friends but have run into so many Queen bees that I am ready to give up.

It is really is a waste of money and time. Every review that I read about online dating is a bad one. The whole industry is sickening; praying on the people that yearn to love and be happy only to let them down. In one state in Australia where I live I've found it even more difficult to meet a good, down-to-earth woman online. I don't put women on pedestal, had my fair share of relatioships but I"m also shy and busy so i'd really like to see some online dating work.

I'm in no rush, but why can't I just find a healthy smart woman who is NOT self-obsessed, for some good online conversation?? At least most guys get some kind of comment. I was on four different popular sites in the last few years I got only a wink or very short text and just one. Met only one woman at a car show for two hours then she got a call and had to get going.

I'm real shy too but I feel I sent out some really good icebreaker messages, I put a lot of thought into them, to always sound upbeat and funny. But never got any comment, not even a thanks but no thanks, seems like they don't even get them, but the scammers sure answer quick with a too good to be true letter and great pictures.

I was married for fourteen years and divorced for eleven. Was her idea for the split, shes remarried a few years I can't even get a date yet.

Think she put a curse on me lol. Can't believe so many people jump in bed on the first date, both sexes. It's that kind of life style that hurts so many people,that nobody trust anybody anymore and I can't say that I blame them.

Which I've never done before, maybe this will work, who ever reads this might know of somebody through the grape vine. I know there's good ones out there I just read some of there letters here. There's too many bad ones out there in the way of us good one's. I Know this is a little off the wall but I'll give it a shot.

If there's any good one's out there please I'd love to meet you. I'm trying something different, by, bypassing all the dating services. Because, really from the comments I've read about all these dating sites. There's a lot of unhappy people out there, wish they'd quit playing games and say what they really think, that's what I try to do. The same pigs have shown up on all of the dating apps I have used. I originally started with plenty of fish, where I met two very good long-term friends, but no romantic chemistry.

The majority of the other users were soliciting inappropriate photos and sending them as well. A few mentally unstable messages followed rejections. There are just as many people looking for hook ups on match.

Disappointing as to what society has become. I don't agree entirely with this article.. I use dating sites and am smart using them, as a result I don't get harassed. If the woman is smart and secure of herself instead of making it easy for the man it would make dating for a female easier.

A lot of women are Insecure of themselves and a man can sense that, if I get a sexualized message instead of being afraid I just message back and say"you're disgusting best of luck. Just saying an insecure woman who acts fearful is more bound to be harassed on these sites. I've also met and dated plenty of men from free dating sites that are seeking a commitment, don't assume ALL men only want a hookup that's not at all true.

More so want Casual stuff but if you spend enough time online you'll meet decent men that want a relationship. I had 2 boyfriends come from OkCupid, there are good ones online too. Don't make yourself vulnerable and easy for the men! Nail very much hit on the head. Online dating for girls that are decent and offline for that matter requires work and a combination of common sense, good judgement and patience.

Same thing for decent guys going online - it requires work and there are guides out there that go a bit further than the generic "read her profile" advice given here if guys looked hard enough for them and that easily help them stand out. I think the problem is these days people are more desperate than ever for a quick fix and dismiss new ideas if they don't see sparks flying first go. I saw similar things in college where most my friends got brutally negative, generic and uninformed advice particularly if parents had no clue about their field if they hadn't gotten a job within 1 week of graduation.

You cant seriously sitt there and say honestly that women have dating harder than men. I mean seriously, is that honestly what you think? You watch as your sanity melts away from the slow burning tourture of loanliness, you would go mad, anyone would. It amazes me how selfish women are, it really does, id love to give you all my pain just for one day sso you would understand the utter hopless misery that men have to face! I hate this life i just want to die. I just cant beleive any woman would sit there and say she has it harder than men.

You have no idea what decades of blanket rejections and loanliness would do to you, it would kill you, its true hell. Yeah obviously easier for women. Men have to work hard even to get validation from girls while women have men blowing up their phones boosting their ego by chasing them. Guys be happy with even unwanted attention from opposite sex.

Women can't make up their minds because of all their o ptions. While men don't have nearly the same amount of options or experience. They can get attention and sex easily while guy gets neither easily cuz he has to compete for it. Competing, chasing and getting rejected can be so discouraging that you question if it's worth it if girls are so narcissistic and dismissive to guys' advances.

Women never deal with rejection the way guys do. They never put themselves in that position and so they are constantly avoiding rejection and receiving positive attention from guys chasing them.

Why sex so "creepy? Means guy attracted to you. Take it as a compliment. Why society berate the guy for being a man?! You put up a pic, put little work into your profile, and yet expect so much from the guys who contact you? You even admit you receive nice messages, but refuse to even acknowledge such guys?

Not even a simple thank you back? What does that say about you?? Congrats on the ego stroke, but I'm not taking the bait. Lot of guys of looking for someone to actually date, and you aren't that person.

Your advice simply does not apply. Lots of good n bad on it. As soon as i read your name i knew you were an Aussie, i agree with your sentiments regarding dating sites, they're about as barren as some pubs are these days I was recently scammed on Match. There have been class action suits against Match for portraying themselves with 15 million users when only a million are paid subscribers and the rest contain a lot of scam artists looking to relieve you of your cash.

The whole site is a scam in the sense they want to auto renew your subscription which is hard to stop once you sign up. I wonder if any of the people on the site are real at all! It is and some are, had a bunch of dates on there before I met my girlfriend who we now live together and have a beautiful baby boy with Where as in the real world it is harder for men to key in on victims. You just have to be more careful use an extra screening process and not take things so personal knowing it is a numbes game and nothing that is exceptional should be expected or necessarily easy to obtain Just like life if you want something special sometimes it takes hard work!

I think I'm being scammed. I put a report with the fbi a month ago. I'm waiting for them to respond. I'm keeping him on the hook until I hear from the agency.

So they can take over and catch him. I've been asked for money. His company name I have researched. It's a generic website and the addresses I looked up for his offices show no record of his company ever being there. Lease records and such.

He has an Enflick voip number, but his last picture looks like a location of what he's stated. I can't find evidence his pictures are reposts of someone else. How do I proceed safely until the authorities arrive? I am a good looking guy not a model will not say that not arrogant but 5'10 and pounds. Last time l was online dating was about 10 years ago meet my ex wife and the mom of our daughter through lavalife. This time I find pof a total waste of time I am a gold member but our of couple of dozens ladies I contacted 1 only replied back and she told me you are a really nice man and wish you best of luck but just started to date a man.

I am only 40, leave in greater Vancouver, bc have a good job and rent a 2 bedroom place on my own plus drive a suv. It seems maybe wrong that the idiot men have flooded the ladies to Mt he point they tune out even great men or that many sadly l suspect accounts on pof now are fake. Either way l am at the point of giving up and l am sure l was not the first or last normal nice man to reach this point due to no ladies replying back at all. Dont give up fella, just work harder and lower expectations of how quickly results should come I've been doing online dating for only a few months seriously.

Anyway, what I am seeing is a growing disconnect and a lot of people getting disgruntled. I have to admit I was too in the beginning. I think it is because one develops expectations based on statistics instead of reality.

I thought, at first, "wow, so many women to see who I really am"! Statistically speaking, I should get a few responses. So I start examining the numbers game and thought I could play a little with it. I want to be strategic about this, right? I try to throw in a little humor if I can, but my first message, if there is something in her profile, ALWAYS contains at least one if not a few references to hers. I write in complete sentences and try to seek ways to spark a conversation.

I make no lewd comments whatsoever. I don't even reference anything about looks except once and that was a weak moment on my part since she her picture affected me that way, plus it was an experiment to see if venturing there yielded anything different. I also try to not be unrealistic as far as types of women I try to engage. I am 52, 6' 2", a little under lbs, no paunch, somewhat athletic and active, and I feel I am decent looking but have no idea how to quantify that.

After reading about how to write a profile, I feel I've written a strategically thorough yet somewhat concise one. I will say that overall, I am an eclectic type that's hard to describe very thoroughly: I am personally open to a wide variety of situations, but I feel most women want some kind of commitment.

I don't game because I haven't dated in almost thirty years. I had been married for about 27 years and now divorced for a year. So I am not even sure what this "game" they keep talking about really is, although I have an idea.

Whatever it is, I would certainly abide by the wishes and expectations of whomever I want to see and date. What are you doing? If I try to go deeper at all, they either disappear or keep repeating themselves probably catfishers since other things about their profiles make their seeking me unrealistic. Then, I have had a couple go a few sentences longer, but almost all have ended.

Unfortunately, one had a legitimate mental disorder from traumatic brain injury. I tried to make this one work, but we just could never connect. One other one is so far away, I am still seeing where it goes. But so far, at best we'll be friends and no dates unless I travel over miles to another country. I've sent dozens of messages not hundreds yet , along with "winks" do these even work? I am paid on POF so I can see where a ton aren't read. A few read, some read then deleted and some deleted outright.

I respect the deleted ones, so I don't even bother. A few of those were probably out of my league anyway I was too old, or they were way more active or maybe interests didn't match. I had hoped that I would have gotten a little more response out of the others, especially ones who were mutual "meet me" that POF has. But even that didn't garner a response. So then I don't know if sending more messages is expected, tacky, pestering, or what.

I feel like I need to based on what some women seem to be saying because mine are probably getting lost in the shuffle and I need to work at keeping myself visible. So, in my disappointment, I have been researching what is really going on. I've found many posts like this about what women "deal with".

And I find it interesting how they have the opposite challenge most of the time. And I was honestly surprised at how jaded they get, but I don't blame them because of all these goofball, creepy, lewd, stalker responses they get. Now I see a dilemma. The nice guys, of which I consider myself right at the center of not so nice that I would be boring, but definitely nice enough to be respectful of a woman and her boundaries and that no means no , can't get responses let alone dates.

The nice women seem to get nothing but tons of messages to try to wade through. Who knows where all the drain and noise is coming from, though we know the sources such as scammers, desperate loser types, stalkers, catfishers, etc. And there doesn't seem to be too much that can be done about limiting that. However, if we are aware of it, we can do things to try to counter it. It also seems that we need to become more strategic and not so bitter about how to approach all of this.

I see where a bridge needs to be built here somehow. Maybe the nice guys need to be recognized more somehow by getting in kind responses from women. If you get a nice initial message, at least say no thank you and even a brief idea of how good the message was. Us guys get no clue whether we are sending out the right message or not. It would even be nice to get some kind of rating system going like eBay or something. This weird limbo of never knowing if it was the message, the profile, the pictures or if who we messaged is overwhelmed is really tough to deal with.

It would also be nice to have women realize that if they are getting decent if not outright nice messages more than once from a guy, that these guys are just trying to stay on top of the crap that that woman is otherwise getting; that they aren't stalking or pestering, they are just wondering if they are getting heard at all.

I don't know what to do about the jerks. I think a lower percentage of guys that are like this are out there. But for some reason these idiots are taking up all of the dating bandwidth.

And about the only thing I can see nice guys who really want this to work bringing to the table is to just not get bitter and disappointed. I don't know, it is really hard to see how to break this cycle that is destroying online dating for the majority of us. It would be helpful to know that possibly a new kind etiquette be understood by women that repeat messages that are nice should be acceptable and that we men kindly engage them with these; that we get a chance to overcome the idiots by countering them somehow.

Also, maybe people could work up some kind of meta-dating situation something like responding to websites about online dating or, as I said above, some kind of rating system? For me, online dating is about my only hope of meeting anyone. I am not religious nor do I drink, even coffee it puts me to sleep. I have food allergies and sensitivities. I work online from home. As a result, I don't go to any place of worship, I don't club or do bars, I can't eat at any restaurants, and I don't have a work environment with other people.

I actually have very few friends despite my best efforts. I keep running across so many people with involved lives of which I am just not a part including my family.

So, online is the only place I can even think about meeting people. I go for walks in the park, to the library, and around downtown. What also challenges me is that I am fairly introverted. On top of all this being much older, I have not the foggiest idea on how to hit up a conversation with a woman I've never met before. I didn't when I was twenty I met my former wife through very unusual circumstances involving an acquaintance and what little dating I did then I did all though people I knew.

How am I going to do it at over fifty and not seem weird? Another approach I am trying is to get involved with community events and groups. But once again, very few, if any women attend what I tend to go to, let alone any who are in my age group and meet other modest criteria, none having to do with "looks".

For instance, I go to a drum circle the only one within 30 miles of me. Of available women who show up a few unavailable do , it is pretty much just one in her 80s along with over twenty guys. Women tend to do things like Zumba, dance, yoga or other exercise classes where if I showed up, it would be creepy since it will be assumed I am there for only one reason.

I would love it if I would be accepted as a drummer for belly or tribal dance, but alas, the same creep factor seems to be at play. Well, I could probably say more, but I hope to start a conversation about what can really be done about this issue and not just complaining about it.

I would really like to overcome the disconnect with what is happening between guys and gals and to renew proper expectations. Otherwise, it will become one of the biggest fails of our technological communications age. David, what an extremely sensitive and impressive person you are, they are very pwrceptive observations would have been nice to write you up as a friend Do you ever submit correspondence on quora..?

Upload your photo's and fill your profile. Look for the bad ones and write a blog post. Start looking for men. Initiate the conversation with the man, and let him rate you as you like to rate men.

Not all guys are bad, but not all women are either, and for every man out there sending women messages that women don't want there is a woman out there who thinks she is worth more then men so she doesn't have to give what she takes. You've been telling men they are doing it wrong for centuries.

How about you step up to the plate then? I am trying once again with the online dating. I read the response of the recently divorced 62 year old man in Vancouver. If you haven't been on a date in 27 years, don't be too disappointed if you can't get one right away.

As you said, you and your recent ex were introduced. Probably you had mutual acquaintances and got the opportunity to know one another over time. The only relationships I ever had started this way. Through friends, meeting at a party, seeing the person regularly in my community. If you don't drink, you can still no to a bar. There are loads of places where people socialize, listen to music, dance. Have a club soda if you don't drink alcohol. I try to read the on line profiles of the men who send me messages.

I am never married with no kids. A recently separated man is not for me. He is not actually single. I dated a man who claimed to have been divorced for many years. He is very involved with his ex wife mother of his adult son as she had an accident and is helping to take care of her.

The son 30 years old is a good kid but has a miriad of personal and health problems. He also had a large extended family he spends a lot of time with. This is great, but I was wondering where I fit in. Apparently he is looking for a lover and was VERY forward practically dove on me on our first date. I am a slow starter and do not appreciate this type of thing. On line dating is not so easy for the over 50 set. Also, since I am not divorced, I usually ask the men why they are divorced.

Most do not want to talk about it, so that is a non starter for me. If the person cannot express to me why their marriage did not work out, their are probably a lot of thing they will not be able to express to me. Just hang in there. Consider yourself lucky for having had a long marriage. If their is a particular reason why your marriage ended, reflect on it honestly so you can communicate it to a new woman who comes into your life.

She will probably ask about it. In the meantime, don't think about all the limitations you express about all the reasons you cannot "go out". You say you go to the park. Ask a woman to meet you there.

You don't have to drink coffee. Just buy one for her. Can you go to a museum? If you get to know her better and you like each other, you can cook a meal for her. Take her to a concert, go to a play. There are loads of graduate schools that put on excellent performances of all kinds that are very reasonably priced or free.

How in the world do you expect to meet a woman if you do not move away from your computer screen? If you do not step out from. I paid for an eHarmony subscription for a year because I heard such positive reviews about their matchmaking algorithm, but found that many of the guys also had profiles on POF so I didn't see the point in paying anymore.

EHarmony was great in that you could only connect with someone with whom you were deemed compatible, but new matches were sent infrequently. POF allows anyone to contact anyone so it is easy to be bombarded with unwanted messages from incompatible suitors, but it's free. My biggest complaint about online dating is the deplorable lack of manners and grammar. I don't believe I have ever received a message containing even one punctuation mark in the two years I've been a member on POF, and the messages can be outright lewd!

I've also been the target of a determined fellow more than once, so it really comforted me to read this author experienced the same. I do not engage with users who are disrespectful, have clearly not read my profile, or lack even a basic understanding of spelling and grammar, and I typically delete these unwanted messages.

If you're reading this, guys, please take the author's advice and actually read our profiles before you randomly solicit us for sex, and for heaven's sake use complete sentences! I look for men who DONT want children I have them already, and finding someone who is happy to date a single mum Even if getting attention IS easy, does it mean the man is necessarily right for me? I read the profiles carefully. And if they read mine carefully, they might discover that I am really not right for them.

I get attention from men all the time. And I speak to men all the time. Finding a special person is not easy for a man or a woman. Speaking from personal experience, a man who has poor hygiene and no employment or income is not the man for me.

He doesn't have to be rich. I will not date a man who asks me to borrow money or cannot pay for a cup of coffee. If he cannot bother to take care of his teeth, shave or put on a clean shirt, what makes him think I would want to get physically close to him? This is pretty basic stuff. The truth is, it is not easy for a man or a a woman to find a good partner. Do you know what you are looking for?

If it is just "attention", that is easy to find. If is is a long lasting relationship with a suitable partner, that is not so easy for a man or a woman to find. Get over the idea that you do not get enough "attention". Personally, I am very allergic to animals. I live in a city and would not date a man with animals. It makes me uncomfortable as I physically cannot tolerate them.

I would never ask the man to give up his pet, so when I see a man is an animal lover, I don't respond. It is not that I do not like animals, I just cannot breathe around them. I had one boyfriend with a dog who kept the animal very clean, his home was spotless he had a professional housekeeper and dog groomer. He also did not allow the dog to lie on the furniture or the bed and was very sensitive to the fact that some people are allergic to animals. I was able to date that man.

It is really the exception, however. Other men I know with pets like to lounge with them, sleep with them, have them hang out everywhere. That's absolutely great, but it does not match up with me. So I do not reply. Think about all the reasons a woman might not reply. Do you live miles away? Are you spending all your time and money on your children from your previous marriage? Nothing wrong with being a responsible parent, but where does that leave the single woman with no kids you want to date?

If she is also divorced with school aged kids, maybe it's a possible match. Women do not "have it easy". And neither do the men. As a man who has NEVER had a date from the 3 main sites I have used, I can categorically say that; even if you read a profile, send a nice message and be pretty much, charming Us "men" get ignored or blocked. I have been blocked many times for just being interested about a lady's profile.

I don't say anything sexual and I am always polite. They want someone to chat to and, when they get bored, there's always more men to choose from. Women will get around messages every few days. They may be crappy messages but it's still a message. All I see woman say on profiles is how men pester them with sexual comments and, if they are not sexual, all they say is; "hi". As a man who has NEVER had a date from the 3 main sites I have used, I can catagorically say that; even if you read a profile, send a nice message and be pretty much, charming I am a woman and just gave up on POF and Eharmony because I did not receive 1 message in the whole 6 months I paid to be on both sites.

Not lewd, poorly written or otherwise. So I don't' see how it is harder for a man who can message anyone he likes, than it is to sit and wait and get nothing. Even "unattractive" men get more attention than that. But if you are an average or worse looking female, you might as well not even sign up.

You would be lucky to get get a reply. And as far as average women, let me tell you I'm not one to judge but I know women who by most standards would be considered below average. She has showed me. And secondly it's hard not to get a bit of any ego or get pick when you feel you have the power of choice.

Lastly unattractive men do not get a response period. They either get laughed at, get turned into a joke, or have woman block them or threaten them simply for showing interest even if they did so in a completely normal, acceptable way. I'm not saying whether you had it hard or not. But if you think any mean who isn't on the higher side of average is realistically getting any attention you have alot to learn about the male side of this.

Also why can't you intimate a conversation? I'm female and I've been on Match on and off 3 times. First when I was 50 and looked Then 55 and looked 50, etc. I look great and younger. I had pretty much nothing but weirdos asking for pics naked before we met really? Out of all this, I had a few coffees and drinks I won't go to dinner with someone that I haven't met, as I don't want to waste their money or mine if we don't click a bit, so it's coffee or drinks at first out of many responses, I had no one go out with me that I responded to, I had 2 crazy men I ended up leaving the date after they got weird, and only 1 man who I am still friends with 5 years later.

We never became romantic as there was no spark, but we hit it off as friends, something I wasn't looking for, really, but, I figured, oh, well, a single woman can always use a guy friend, and we help each other out with chores. He helps me with yard work and woodworking, I help him with laundry and ironing. Not often, but from time to time we hang out. I don't think its possible for someone in my age group to suceed on line. To women who think that men that get no responses on dating sites are genetic losers or something, you couldnt be more wrong.

I get a lot of attention from women outside, im 6 foot 2 and confident and women respond a lot to it. I also look better in real life than on a selfie, id need a professional photographer almost to make me look how I look at myself in the mirror thats what others see anyway.

I've seen similar guys as me, popular guys that try tinder and get zilch. Is it our fault for not wanting to work more on our profiles and hire professional photographers? Anyway I find anyone who spends more than 2 hours on an internet profile is wasting their time. I'll just stick to real life, where women show a lot more judgement. I am 6 foot and confident and well dressed.

I have a job and I am reasonably good looking. These 2 gentleman are correct. There is no point to it anymore. It's a losing game and it's only getting worse. We aren't trying to bat out of our league either, it just is what it is. Online dating is dying and women killed it. This is my situation. My online profile gets less attention than my real life presence I'm a bit ticked. I currently have 3 women I work with that I'm not really interested in at all totally keep giving me the "I want you look".

I don't like going to bars because I'm not much of a public social drinker, and I abhor 1 night stands with people I don't know very well. I'm not very tall 5'11" and apparently good looking enough to always attract attention from someone at least once a month. I've had way more success than most men on dating sites. Most of the women I've met just want casual sex, typically one night stands. My last two girlfriends from POF were abusive and one pretended to be pregnant.

Most women I've chatted to without meeting just wanted an ego boost or to talk to "friends" on a dating site! Any woman is going to get a ton more genuine guys than a man will get genuine women.

It's a numbers game and the numbers will always favour the girls. Let's hear about how terrible it is for women. Ok lil boys and girls, heres what they dont tell you and why you do or dont get replies based on your gender.

In the age groups.. First the women on these sites. Now guys for the most part my brethren are the same except where as the women imply theyre single, you retards take off your wedding rings and replace them with credit cards, because all your looking for is a piece if strange and an ego boost cause you knocked up your ol'ladies and no one told you after she pops out a few lil ones her tits are gonna sag and her ass is gonna get wider than broad st, so you think your entitled to go out and chase young strange until you get caught, then you whine like the bitches you are when you do , and dont wanna give up the old and busted til you have the new hotness commited , basically just like all the women do Dating sites are a waste.

I've spent two years and read a lot of columns like this and put the advice into practice. I've had 6 dates, none of which panned out. I'm a decent guy; solid career, clean background my job requires security clearance , I'm NOT looking for a hookup, I always try to start conversations with their interests, and I even got female friends to vet my profile. Yet while I make it clear I'm looking for a serious relationship, I get hit with "oh, I am just looking for a friend, not dating".

I get to the point of meeting in person Had several who suddenly realize they are not ready to date again I'm 47, most singles my age are divorced. What I've found is the old stereotype is often true; if a guy isn't really hot or really wealthy, there's no interest. One who I went on a date with actually said I was too nice. One asked me to text a picture I have several in my profile, both headshot and full head-to-toe photos , then literally said "oh I did the "fake profile" test, left most details the same.

Changed my name put up photos of a relatively unknown in the U. The rest of the details job, interests, kids, etc. I not only was flooded with messages, several were the SAME women who had not given the "real me" even a reply. Otherwise, you're going to spend a lot of time staring at your keyboard. Robert, you left one factor out. What would you rate your physical attractiveness on a scale from ? I'd also ask what was the attractiveness of the women you were messaging?

If you feel you're a 6, you should be messaging 4s or less. I'm a man, and I just started using a dating site to see if I could meet someone. It was kind of an accident that I found myself on OKcupid, but I was recently single after many years and figured wth.

Initially I had good success meeting women, and had a few dates. Still they were positive experiences and friendly ladies though one seemed offended My profile was kind of sparse and direct. I read up some about online dating and made my profile more detailed and joined PoF too. I think I've written decent opening messages, and a few I thought would for sure be interested to talk and then go out as they had indicated a like or some such. I figured most would be courteous enough to at least respond, even if it's a thanks but no thanks.

I always respond when I'm not interested and say why. To me this is just common courtesy. I know many people have different etiquette online then in person and I think that's a bunch of shit. Anyways I can see why some men would get frustrated, and if they express that to you rudely you should be grateful because he just did you a favor showing you that you don't want to date him anyway.

Ladies you have nothing to complain about if in your opinion you're receiving too much attention, even if only a few are quality that's reality anywhere. It kind of equates to complaining about making too much money.

You can't take things personal online and let yourself become jaded and angry. If some jerk sends you dick pics or whatever as his opening line laugh it off and hit your delete button.

Honestly it's not like you haven't seen one before, and it's not gonna jump off the screen and bite you lol. Alright I think its time for me to get back to the real world, that fence in my front yard isn't going to paint itself oh how I wish.

Hi David - Welcome to reality. You have to paint your fence. Most women on this site paint their own fences too. Just like you, I do not have eternity to message complete strangers on line. For your information, dating a man that lives in another city is impossible for me.

Simply logistically impossible unless he has loads of dollars. Because I cannot afford to take time and money from work to run after some man 50 miles away.

Guys - are you reading the profiles and does the woman seem to have anything in common with you? Does she live nearby? Is she allergic to animals? I find the more details I put in my profile, the fewer messages I receive. That's fine by me because I do not want to have to reply to every guy who lives in a geographical location I have no way to get to.

You would be amazed at the number of men who message me who are not accessible. They live to far away. How can I get to know them if I need to travel over an hour to meet them for a cup of coffee?

Really guys - check it out before you think - hey, no one sent me a message. There are loads of guys out there - handsome with good jobs that live near me - who love their dog. Because I am allergic to dogs and I would not expect the person to give up their pet for me. Other guys, handsome, nice property, etc. How will I date him? Spend a whole day on a road trip to have a cup of coffee with him? It is sort of flattering to receive a message.

But it leaves me with a sinking feeling too - this guy is NOT anywhere near me. He has no means to make it easy for us to get together. I have to go paint my fence. I met someone on OkCupid. I don't think it had anything to do with the website OkCupid just know that there are bad people out there and always go with your gut feeling he is currently in jail serving time for grand theft and fraud.

I think all these dating sites should have some type of background check or a place for you can check people out. I did Google this person and nothing came up. If it's too good to be true it is. I'm a male and must say, you have a damn good point about bgc's.

Then again, if I may add, if only dating sites would show all the different profiles users have replied to in the past to get an idea what they're REALLY looking for, yuh know? Then calls to ask where we're meeting.

I'm going back to the traditional way of meeting, so you can assess some of the chemistry right off. There's a bit less of the weirdness of online and encountering guys that you know you're not compatible with. Some guys judge based on women not being interested or giving them a chance.

Attraction, chemistry and compatibility is a two-way street and some guys assume it should be one sided when they're interested in you. For the ladies in similar circumstances of being stuck in the south, look at the contrast of the men in the north to the Night and day, by that I mean nc is low on decent, educated, articulate legally single men that don't have a few illegitimate kids. I miss the north, just based on that. The guys down here scare me. I see so many women that have lessened and lowered their standards so much that they're broke down and look it.

They will allow the low lifes to leech off of them and to just use them up. These articles written by women on online dating are always cynically amusing to me. You get so many messages, and some of them are crude and offend you.

Or, you get to go on a date and the guy is a jerk and offends you and it doesn't work out. Try being a guy. Try getting maybe one or two messages a month that are either from spambots or women ten years older than you that weigh more than you. One of the hidden powers of the internet is that it can collect information as well as display it. The vast majority of men on these sites are not good enough for the desires of the vast majority of women, and despite "equality," men are expected to do the work, all of it.

Many, many good men see that they are ignored by girls who are still looking for the hunks, and they check out. Some are still there, and will catch these women when "they're ready to settle down," but most will be too bitter and too wise to settle for a former party girl.

Women say the worst thing that can happen is to be raped, but I don't think that is true. I think the worst thing that can happen is to never be desired by anyone for your entire life.

You narcissists need to own the society you made by your own efforts. I would love to see what you look like, as well as your height. Natural selection must clearly be at play in your failed attempts to get womens' interest and it is obviously irking you into misogyny. Sorry for your bad genetic luck. True man, women HATE nice men but proclaim to be seeking a "nice guy".

I am nice with no car and a crappy job.

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